SKULLS

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Carpathian brown bears

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Ursus etruscus
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Kamchatka

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From the U.a.lasiotus myth & lore thread:







Head of a bear, Ainu village of Shiraoi, Japan.


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Feb 16, 2011 7:35:03 GMT -9 grrraaahhh said:

From the U.a.lasiotus myth & lore thread:







Head of a bear, Ainu village of Shiraoi, Japan.


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Since we are in the the proverbial neighborhood, a sneak peak (extract) from the unpublished Ussuri brown bear (Profile) thread - from the skull sub section:


The largest Eurasian bear skull acquired belongs to Ursus arctos lasiotus, the specimen was obtained in the Khabarovsk district and is housed at the Museum of the Institute of Biology of Yakutia. The brown bear skull was extracted by hunters in and around the Kur river basin and measured a titanic 44 cm long!

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Manchurian brown bears are renowned for their impressive large skulls.








Above: Blackie, the Manchurian brown bear (San Diego Zoo).


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The largest Eurasian bear skull acquired belongs to Ursus arctos lasiotus, the specimen was obtained in the Khabarovsk district and is housed at the Museum of the Institute of Biology of Yakutia. The brown bear skull was extracted by hunters in and around the Kur river basin and measured a titanic 44 inches long!

To be honest with you i would like more precisions please about measurements of bear skulls because i don't understand several things:

Largest arctodus skull is about 521 mm, largest cave bear skull is about 56cm and you write that a "little bear" like U.a.lasiotus could have a 44 inches (1.1 m) skull?

How do we scientifically measure a bear skull?

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Feb 16, 2011 10:43:10 GMT -9 arctodus said:

The largest Eurasian bear skull acquired belongs to Ursus arctos lasiotus, the specimen was obtained in the Khabarovsk district and is housed at the Museum of the Institute of Biology of Yakutia. The brown bear skull was extracted by hunters in and around the Kur river basin and measured a titanic 44 inches long!

To be honest with you i would like more precisions please about measurements of bear skulls because i don't understand several things:

Largest arctodus skull is about 521 mm, largest cave bear skull is about 56cm and you write that a "little bear" like U.a.lasiotus could have a 44 inches (110 mm) skull?

How do we scientifically measure a bear skull?

Of course 44 cm

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New World Record Kamchatka Brown Bear
"...You may have heard that a new SCI world record Kamchatka brown bear was taken last year. The bruin squared out at 10 feet, six inches and had a skull measurement of 29 8/16, beating the old record by a half inch. The lucky hunter was Mike Egger of Union, Illinois. He booked the hunt through George Sevich of Eurasian Expeditions. We spoke to both Egger and Sevich this month to get the skinny on this trophy.........."
"45,7 см (18 дюймов), ширина черепа - 29,2 см (11 8/16 дюйма).
Количество очков - 29 8/16 "

Record trophy skull = 45,7 см long + 29,2cm width .
Skull score (length and width combined = 29 8/16 ")

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My mistake. A measurement of unit error. Centimeters not inches.

A quick peek at the notes, G.F. Baryshnikov (2007) reports 44.7 cm but E. Schwartz (1940) citing data from Lonnberg, Ognev, and Pocock; records a Ursus beringianus beringianus Middendorff specimen (Ussuri brown bear) measuring 45.5 centimeters:


It appears, therefore, that we have in Manchuria only one species of true Ursus; the specific names lasiotus Gray (1867), mandchuricus Heude (1898), and cavifrons Heude (1898) clearly apply to it. This is a bear of giant size with a variable skull, and with the color brown or blackish. The total length of the skull of the old male, as indicated by the measurements published by Lonnberg, Ognev, and Pocock (8 skulls) varies between 387 and 455 mm.