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Post by warsaw on Jul 13, 2012 9:37:17 GMT -9
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Post by polarbear on Oct 11, 2012 10:29:17 GMT -9
"I have the ADF&G technical report info showing mature peninsula boar brownies to be averaging 1000 lbs (spring weight)." "Only"441 kg for >= 10 y.o. males (range 363kg-544 kg) Thanks for data grrraaahhh . Can I view this data? I am interested to see it. |
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 11, 2012 13:40:58 GMT -9
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Post by polarbear on Oct 12, 2012 9:30:58 GMT -9
Thank you very much!
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Post by sarus on Oct 15, 2012 22:42:46 GMT -9
¨ Unusually heavy black bears usually have access to supplemental food. Researchers weighed such a bear near Orr, Minnesota, in 1994. Duffy, age 12, weighed 584 pounds on July 31 and 876 pounds on September 5 (photos), gaining 8.1 pounds a day those 36 days. On September 9, he went off to make a den. On July 4, 1995, he weighed only 465 pounds after losing 411 pounds (47 percent) during hibernation and mating. _____________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ ► www.bear.org/website/bear-pages/black-bear/basic-bear-facts/34-weight.html_____________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________
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Post by sarus on Oct 15, 2012 23:08:18 GMT -9
  "Jim Brooks and his companions employ a helicopter to obtain
the weight of each specimen".Source: Revista Geográfica Universal - March, 1980. |
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 16, 2012 20:51:19 GMT -9
The figure of 1002kg I believe was never confirmed/verified, I don't it actually weighed that much. I understand the skepticism Richard, but I think this bear was likely weighed:  Source: Ellis, Richard, On Thin Ice: The Changing World of the Polar Bear, New York: Vintage Books, 2010. Gerald Woods Text Extract: Sports Illustrated 1961 Text Extract:This fierce new competition has led to some bitter rhubarbs, with Fitz making supreme decisions from his trophy-tilled penthouse in Manhattan. The most recent controversy involved a mammoth polar bear killed by Arthur Dubs of Medford, Ore. Mounted, the bear stands 11 feet 1½ inches, the tallest ever. But Fitz and the B&C Club take the position that bear records are meaningful only if based on the size of the skull. "The taxidermists seem to operate on the principle that what the hunter wants is altitude," Fitz grumbles, "and they mount these bears straight up in a position no polar bear has ever taken. Then they measure the height. And this can vary by as much as a foot or two for the same size skin." One can only pity poor Dubs. He may well have taken the biggest polar bear ever, but he can't even submit the skull for measurement because a piece of it was chipped off in the dressing operation. He is left with a gargantuan trophy totally lacking in official status. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1147907/3/index.htmFamous 1961 US media reporting of the polar bear kill:   Richardrli, your statement about the unconfirmed 1002kg is the stronger and correct argument. Mr. Woods cites no authority for this record. Professional literature does not recognize the record either. My mistake, sometimes I get sloppy with the reading. |
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 17, 2012 11:24:24 GMT -9
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Post by richardrli on Oct 18, 2012 4:06:02 GMT -9
Is there any information on where the supposed 1002kg polar bear is kept today?
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 18, 2012 10:35:00 GMT -9
Is there any information on where the supposed 1002kg polar bear is kept today? Nobody knows what happened to the bear (IMO, theft). Like we see with stolen art work, we can hope someday the missing polar bear will resurface. |
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Post by sarus on Oct 28, 2012 19:05:22 GMT -9
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Post by sarus on Oct 28, 2012 19:32:47 GMT -9
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 29, 2012 10:43:18 GMT -9
Good find sarus. Give me a little bit of time to reply...some parts to the story still do not make sense (the polar bear went from being mounted to later being skinned?).
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Post by richardrli on Oct 29, 2012 14:51:26 GMT -9
Thanks Sarus. But this just gets more confusing, was this bear actually shot in 1960 or 1961??
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Post by grrraaahhh on Oct 29, 2012 15:59:53 GMT -9
Compare the calendar dates of the articles provided by Sarus. The quoted literature is a 2009 publication. FYI, a lot of the top trophy polar
bears come from the Kotzebue Sound area.
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