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Post by grrraaahhh on Nov 10, 2010 19:40:00 GMT -9
Giant Short Faced Bear
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Post by grrraaahhh on Nov 20, 2010 16:55:01 GMT -9
Prehistoric Predators: Bear
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Post by grrraaahhh on Dec 11, 2010 15:45:01 GMT -9
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Post by grrraaahhh on Dec 24, 2010 11:02:04 GMT -9
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Post by warsaw on Dec 26, 2010 5:07:27 GMT -9
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Post by grrraaahhh on Jan 3, 2011 11:59:37 GMT -9
Dirk-tooth cats (Homotherium serum) attack a Colombian mammoth herd (Mammuthus Columbia), but a larger predator joins in: a Giant short-faced bear (Arctodus simus). Southern California Pleistocene.
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Post by grrraaahhh on Feb 2, 2011 6:52:28 GMT -9
Giant short-faced bear femur replica28" foam replica of Giant short-faced bear femur.
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Post by grrraaahhh on Feb 2, 2011 13:31:04 GMT -9
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Post by warsaw on Feb 2, 2011 15:18:24 GMT -9
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Post by grrraaahhh on Mar 4, 2011 10:56:24 GMT -9
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Post by grrraaahhh on Mar 4, 2011 11:21:28 GMT -9
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Post by arctodus on Mar 4, 2011 11:37:33 GMT -9
I would like to be sure, the largest skull belongs to an arctotherium, not to an arctodus simus?
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Post by grrraaahhh on Mar 4, 2011 13:34:02 GMT -9
"North American giant short-faced bears have been ascribed at times to various taxa and have undergone several revisions: Arctotherium simum Cope, 1879 (genus from Bravard, 1857); Arctotherium yukonense Lambe, 1911; Arctotherium californicum Merriam, 1911; Dinarctotherium merriami Barbour, 1916; Tremarctotherium simum (Cope, 1879) (genus from Kra-glievich, 1926; used by Rinker, 1949); Arctodus nebrascensis (used by Berger, 1930; genus from Leidy, 1854); and Arctodus simus nebrascensis (used by Frick, 1930). These taxa are now considered to be junior synonyms of Arctodus simus (Cope, 1879), subfamily Tremarctinae, family Ursidae (Kurten, 1963). At one time, all North American Arctodus fossils were tentatively referred to a single species, Arctodus pristinus Leidy, 1854, and thought to be highly variable (Firby, 1968; Kurten, 1963). As more specimens became available, two species were recognized (Kurten, 1967). Arctodus pristinus Leidy, 1854 (junior synonym: Ursus haplodon Cope, 1896) was a relatively lightly built form with slender bones, relatively longer jaws, and smaller teeth than the larger A. simus. A. pristinus has been recognized with certainty only in eastern North America from middle Irvingtonian through Rancholabrean deposits (Kurten, 1967; Kurten and Anderson, 1980). A. simus is larger, has a more robust dentition and skeleton, a shorter face, and relatively longer limbs than A. pristinus. Remains of A. simus are found throughout North America (except in the southeast) and also date from middle Irvingtonian through Rancholabrean times (Kurten, 1967; Kurten and Anderson, 1980). Kurten (1967) recognized two subspecies of A. simus: the larger A. s. yukonensis from Yukon Territory, Alaska, and Nebraska and the smaller A. s. simus recovered throughout the rest of North America." One thing to note, as I understand it, GSFB remains have now been found in the southeast USA. Also, A. pristinus is referred to as the lesser short-faced bear. shaggygod.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=americaspleistocene&action=display&thread=327and.... shaggygod.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=generalevolution&action=display&thread=19(first post & reply # 11)
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Post by grrraaahhh on Mar 4, 2011 13:50:10 GMT -9
The Yukon skull (521 mm) is the largest one collected. We do not have skull or dental samples for the A. angustidens, or the other comparable size North American heavyweights from CA, UT, & NE. As I said before, a review of fossil dental records will also prove useful especially in relations to the large Yukon skull. I know there has been data covering this but I do not know that information off of the top of my head (I would need to look through my files for relating material) but at some point soon (I hope) I can make the inquiry.
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Post by warsaw on Mar 6, 2011 12:58:45 GMT -9
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